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, with senator mccain. but you know we are now technically going over the fiscal cliff. because the house of representatives is going to adjourn. they're not going to consider anything that you guys in the senate might pass. at least until tomorrow. so from your perspective, what does that mean, senator graham, that the country, the united states, is now going over the fiscal cliff? >> i just think it shows the dysfunction of the political system. back to the president's performance today, that was pretty unusual. to have a -- kind of a pep rally in the middle of negotiations. what john said about defense cuts going into effect, shooting the military in the head, according to secretary panetta, is real and true. but i want to cut $1.2 trillion over the next decade. we're going to spend $46.5 trillion. it's not hard to find $1.2 trillion. i just don't want to destroy the defense department. so if you delay the cuts, you're going to lose votes in the house. you're going to lose votes in the house because people in the house want to cut the government. i want to cut the government. i just do
leaders to the white house, 3:00 this afternoon is the date for one final fiscal cliff showdown. just four days left to get this deal done or massive tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in. >>> the u.s. embassy clearing out of an african nation this morning. deteriorating security in the central african republic has forced the u.s. state department to temporarily suspend operations. there the u.s. ambassador, his diplomatic team and some private american citizens are out of the capital. the country's president has asked france and the united states for help to stop rebels that threaten rule. >>> it's not clear who will replace lisa jackson as the head of the environmental protection agency. jackson announced yesterday she's stepping down in january after the president's state of the union address. the epa created new standards for air pollution from coal power plants on her watch. >>> massachusetts congressman ed ma markey throwing his hat into the ring for kerry's senate seat. a special election would be held early this summer. markey a 66-year-old democrat is the first prominent candid
to avoid the fiscal cliff. both houses of congress are meeting in a rather sunday session. the senate convenes aat 1:00 eastern and the house at 2:00. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellen with the look at the chances for a deal and what's on the table. >> here in washington there is still hope a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday the president was at work here in the white house, but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points and revenue figures to try to reach an agreement all sides can stomach. the baseline for the president, any bipartisan bill has to extend unemployment insurance that would affect some 2 million americans, and increase taxes for the highest income earners. negotiators can still work out exactly where that tax increase would hit and whether they would halt an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president has asked democratic leader harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or mo
that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change it. they add whatever is in this deal to it. they have a whole bunch of vehicles that are possible for that. one sticking point, because this deal would most likely deal with taxes, there is a rule in the constitution that is has been interpreted by most every side to determine it has to begin in the house, revenue measures begin in the house. they need a bill that starts in the house, okay, they have a lot to do that. then the trick is making sure they have the votes. i think if we see anything come out of tonight's meeting, anything substantial, that's what is going to happen this next day and a half. leaders on both sides have to make sure they have got t
some republicans in the senate and also from the house in order to aavert this fiscal cliff. the white house right now is saying they want the threshold for the income tax rates at a quarter million dollars. that might be difficult to get republican support on that, so we'll see if that changes, suzanne. >> do we expect that the president is going to come back early from his hawaii vacation if anything happens on the senate side? clearly, he could get things done from hawaii as well, but it could be at least symbolically for him to return to washington. >> reporter: definitely. we expect that he will be heading back to washington, d.c. he was supposed to be here through the new year. i will tell you nothing is official on the schedule that he's definitely going back to d.c., but the sense you get from the white house is that it's more an issue of when and not if. if there is a bill that goes through the senate, the president will have to be there in order to perhaps twist some arms and certainly the optics are important. if we go over the fiscal cliff, suzanne, you've covered the white
to reach a fiscal cliff deal. the senate and house are expected to reconvene tomorrow. we're six days away from possible across the board tax increases and spending cuts. >>> former president george h.w. bush is still in a houston hospital. his wife, barbara, and other relatives at his side. the 88-year-old has been in the hospital for more than a month with a lingering cough and recently had a low grade fever. doctors remain cautiously optimistic about a full recovery. >>> a claim of facebook privacy breach within the zuckerberg family. his sister says a family photo was reposted by another person on twitter. randy zuckerberg called the woman out. the woman apologized said it was public because it was in her facebook newsfeed. >>> in china the longest high speed railway opens, connects beijing with guangzhou, 1,500 in eight hours, but tickets start at $138, and they're a little pricey for some people and many travelers say it's cheaper and faster to fly. >>> a report just out this morning shows home prices up in october, the biggest annual gain in more than two years. alison kosik joins u
majority in the house. in other words, i believe we could take up the bill that prevents the fiscal cliff and get it passed in the house. the only thing preventing us from doing that is that the speakers refuse to allow a vote on that. people need to understand that that plan would provide tax relief to 100% of american families on their first $250,000 of income and for folks above that level, they would be paying a little more on the amount of their income above $250,000. that was the bipartisan senate plan. we should have a vote on a plan like that here in the house. >> congressman, last hour i spoke with a woman her name was karen duct. she lives just outside your district. she could lose her unemployment benefits this weekend if no one comes through with a deal that can be sign ed by the president. here's what she said to you and the rest of washington. >> i would ask them to please come together and make a decision, a decision is needed. put all the personalities aside and step up and make a decision. it's not that difficult to make a decision to make sure that millions of americans
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the fiscal cliff. four hours before a last-ditch meeting at the white house. it's still not clear whether a last-minute deal is even possible or whether this is now all about shifting blame. president obama and vice president biden are sitting down with house leaders. the guest list includes harry reid, who this time yesterday said he didn't see any way the fiscal cliff could be avoided. whatever the case, our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin will be watching. what can we really expect to come out of this meeting this afternoon? >> well, alina, we're not sure what really will come out of it. the ideal scenario would be if all sides agree to a scaled-down version of the fiscal cliff agreement that the president and spe speaker boehner had been discussing weeks ago and then senator mcconnell would agree that no republicans would block it in any way if he can promise that. he argues that he can't really make that promise but if e he could then speaker boehner would promise to bring it to a vote on the floor. all sides would shake hands and we'd have a deal before new year's. th
. that is when the house and senate is expected to reconvene. >>> starbucks weighing in with the own fiscal cliff campaign. workers at 120 d.c. area stores are asked to write this on their cup. come together. yeah, he says it's a way to send elected official as a respectful but potent message, urging them to come together to fin common ground. not grounds, ground. >> all of the bickering in washington, all it will take is a cup at starbucks, i think it will push everybody over the edge. get a deal. >>> ahead, a u.s. marine who languished in a mexican prison for months, gets to spend the holidays at home with his family. >>> coming up, we'll talk to one of the lawmaker who's helped win his release. you're watching "starting point." ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants tha
, deeply disappointed by that. we may be on the verge of a fiscal cliff short-term agreement. the house of representatives, however, will not vote tonight. deal or no deal, there could be a significant impact on your taxes. tom foreman is joining us with more on this part of the storst. >> if you're sitting at home right now and you don't care about the democrats and republicans, you don't care about the white house, and you don't care about congress, you still need to be watching this number and paying attention because if that reaches zero tonight and we don't have a solid promise that a deal is in the works, it could affect everyone's wallet because everyone's taxes are going to go up. let me show you some examples here. let's say you make $50,000 in your household. that's about the median income in this country right now. your taxes next year will increase $2,000 and they'll stay up $2,000 for every year after until this deal gets fixed. we wouldn't think it would go on forever, buthat's a huge chunk. let's talk people who make $75,000. two incomes, little different if you're single
the fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to explain or reiterate the position he took on friday, that he would like a plan that extends tax rates for people who make $250,000 and below but raises them for those who make more than that. that it extends unemployment benefits for americans. and if the president, i'm told will say if he does not get an agreement to that plan, he will ask the other leaders what they can agree to, what what they would like instead. if they cannot come up with a proposal that will pass the house and the senate, will ask for a vote on his measure. but that meeting, candy, is still going on. congre congressional leaders arrived at the white house for a last-ditch meeting just days before a new year's de
house, on avoiding the fiscal cliff. president obama meets with four congressional leaders, boehner, pelosi, reid, and o'connell. the rhetoric getting more angry and disconnected in final moments. i want to bring in michigan senator debbie stabenow now. thank you so much for being with us. >> sure. >> it really is disconnected. everywhere i go, people ask me a simple question. why can't they get this deal done? harry reid got up and said we're just procedurally not going to get this done in time, it caused people to say why not? this is the most anticipated problem we've ever had. it just -- regular folks folks look at washington and say what is going on. >> ali, i'm here and saying what is going on. there are basically three pieces to solving the deficit, right? one is spending and we have agrowed to $1.6 trillion in spending cuts in the last two years and the other is spending cuts. we put forth spending cuts of over $700 billion. not cutting care to seniors, but cutting overpayments to insurance companies. the burden of the deficit must not just be on the middle class. the wealth
leader harry reid says we're all headed for fiscal disaster. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left before the first of the year, aren't here. >> we're now told the house will finally return to work on sunday. now, that's december 30th. in other words, less than 48 hours before we go over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, president obama cut his hawaii vacation short to return to washington today. but has he been working on a deal? "outfront" tonight, reports from both ends of pennsylvania avenue. chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin, and senior congressional correspondent, dana bash. jessica, first, to you, the president's back in washington, wheels down. he left his christmas vacation early. but was this just a bit of showmanship, or has he been working on something specific? >> reporter: hey, john. well, today has been a bit of a quiet day here at the white house. publicly, the president has been scarce, no sign of him. behind closed doors, i'm told a few meetings i
to the wire for the fiscal cliff. letsz than 48 hours for washington to make a deal. both houses of congress are meeting today in rare sunday sessions. the senate is convening at 1:00. the house an hour later at 2:00. the earliest we could see a vote is 6:30 p.m. eastern time. you can catch that live coverage of it right here on cnn. >>> to massachusetts now where a
house just one hour from now on the fiscal cliff crisis. we're going to bring that to you live as soon as it happens, but we're looking at our watches here, our clocks. about 1:30 p.m. eastern the president will come out and address the nation regarding whether or not we're going over this fiscal cliff, the talks and negotiations taking place, the back and forth. we know the vice president as well as top republicans in the senate have been involved in talks throughout the evening and early into the morning. there's some sort of rough framework they're working with here, and we will hear from the president himself on the status of those talks. that is in about 45 minutes from you now. secretary of state hillary clinton is in the hospital for a blood clot. dr. sanjay gupta says the drugs that doctors are using are offering clues to where that clot is. [ lisa ] my name's lisa, and chantix helped me quit. i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke
. >>> keep it here as the clock ticks to the fiscal cliff. we are live on capitol hill and at the white house. plus we'll be back with a full hour at 2:00 p.m. eastern here in the cnn newsroom. we'll see you then. >>> it was one of the most important diplomatic missions in history. also one of the most clandestine and risky. four decades ago henry kissinger, then president nixon's national security adviser, secretly flew to china beginning a string of meetings that would eventually open that isolated eastern nation to the western world. that opening checked soviet expansionism and in a sense was the beginning of the end of the cold war. >> this was the week that changed the world. >> it was also the beginning of china's entry into the world economy, which has resulted in that country becoming the world's second largest economy. >> red china's battle plan. >> but back then the idea of a rapprochement with china would have been rejected as pure fantasy. china was a communist regime that had been fighting america and its allies across the globe. how did the decision come about in the midst of su
taxes. apparently a fiscal cliff solution is not wrapped up as a gift under your christmas tree. makers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho republican was taken to jail in alexandria virginia after midnight. he was stopped for running a red light and charged with driving under the influence. the senator has issued an apology. he was released on $1,000 bond and he has a court date. >>> christmas, two days away, and for much of the country it's going to be a white one. heavy snowfall has blanketed several states up to five feet of snow is expected. snow is also falling back east as well. like lake effect snow has blanketed areas around cleveland and buffalo. high winds are threatening to delay flights in new york, philadelphia and washington. >>> the report you're about to see has very graphic images of people hurt
support in the senate and the house to avoid the fiscal cliff. we are one week away from it, as you mentioned, and republicans are not even part of the discussions, both in the senate and in the house, and at this point they are certainly maybe having a working christmas. senate democrats and republicans, but i think it's interesting just to kind of recap what's going on here. before president obama and house speaker john boehner were working on a much bigger package obviously, not just to avoid the fiscal cliff but to try and tackle the long-term fiscal health of the country, trying to overall it was expected to raise some taxes, try to deal with entitlement reform and tax reform, those other big things like entitlement reform and tax reform get kicked into the new year, dana, so it's the gift that keeps on giving on this cli clifftmas. >> taking this pretty far. one of the key questions is whether or not senate democratic leader harry reid will be able to get enough republicans in the senate to vote on anything that will keep taxes low and maybe cut some spending. is the white hou
that the fiscal cliff encompasses. no matter what happens today, washington failed. the white house failed. they will not solve all the issues put in front of them. and if you get a deal today, it's likely going to kick down a few months down the road a lot of the key issues. they are talking about a mini deal that will deal with tax rates. it might deal with unemployment insurance. but it's not a comprehensive solution. people should be aware of that when they see reports later on today that there's been some deal. >> i think you're absolutely right. all three of you, we face this period of deadline after e deadline, short-term solutions to long-term problems. . it shows a budget process that's aggravating. so far the world markets have been saying we still think america is the best place to invest. ironically, all of this drama about us getting out of debt has made it cheaper for us to borrow money. we have a lot of work to do. we will be talking about this in the days to come. thanks all of you. next i'll ask what measures lawmakers are taking to avoid this manmade, this congress-made d
and his handling of the fiscal cliff situations, that's compared to what, 28% of american who is approve of house speaker john boehner and the job that he's doing. you know, senate majority leader, harry reid has got an approval rating just a little bit above that, 34% for his role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> let's move on to other polling information. which i agree is prety long-term. locking out to 2016 now, what is the potential impact on all of this say on who could replace the current president of the united states. what are we seeing? >> well you know, that's right. the future is very fascinating. we took a look in a poll that we released today, the cnn/orc poll that looked at republicans and democrats. we asked senators from both parties, who they support. let's take a look at the parties. here's the lineup, for the democrats it's secretary of state hillary clinton. she's far and away ahead of the pack with what, 85% of those who said they would support her. she's got a 20-point lead over the next front-runners, which is vice president joe biden. new york governor andrew
the idea of a tax increase on the rich will hate causing america to go over the fiscal cliff even more. okay. option three. that's the red box. that's one where america goes over the fiscal cliff. jessica yellin is cnn's chief white house correspondent. peer into the crystal ball for us, jessica. which of these scenarios is most likely? >> well, ali, i think that after yesterday it's slightly more likely that there will be some sort of agreement. that doesn't mean that there are a whole bunch of optimists running around d.c. saying it's going to get resolved. but what you describe sod well as a moment of spiritual clarity yesterday really did lead some to think that senators reid and mcconnell have done this before. they are two experts at getting together and crafting something that resolves things at the 11th hour. and if any two men with can do it, it is these two men. right now their staffs are working on negotiating that agreement. and so there's some hope that that could get done. i'd say more today than there was when we woke up yesterday morning, ali. >> all right, jessica. you
in washington today to figure out an 11th-hour deal on the fiscal cliff, but what about the house, which punted on boehner's plan b. house congressman steve latourette, by the way someone who has repudiated grover norquist's pledge joins us next. >>> and mark zuckerberg's sister confused about facebook's privacy settings. we'll have the details of that ahead. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the
that are in our control and we have to worry about our fiscal houses and less about the fiscal cliff. >> and those are simple things to do but they take time. but it's good advice. >>> okay, we hear a lot about the amt and how congress may put a patch on that. can you explain it in a simple way so everyone can understand? >> back in '69 they came out with something called "minimum tax." and in '82, the alternative minimum tax and this was a way to make sure the ch wealthy pay their fair share. this is how to level the playing field a little bit. this simply says now it's around $74,500. if -- it will go down to about $45,000 if the fiscal cliff goes off and nothing is done to adjust it. individuals now getting $45,000 back in '82 when first enarngted which is a lot different than $45,000 today. so if individuals earning $45,000 today might be impacted by additional taxes by this amt if something's not done. and, again, this is just a way to try to -- the problem with the amt is it wasn't adjusted for inflation so as time went on and prices have gone up and people have made more money and inflation
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a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points and revenue figures to try to reach an agreement all sides can stomach. the baseline for the president, any bipartisan bill would have to extend unemployment insurance that would affect some 2 million americans and increase taxes for the highest income earners. but negotiators can still work out exactly where that tax increase would hit and whether they would halt an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits the hour of wreckening. alison? >> than
between the lawmakers and president obama to try to avoid going over the fiscal cliff that comes on new year's day. but after a meeting at the white house, the president said he is hopeful. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> cnn's chief business correspondent ali velshi joins us from new york with some very good insight. senate majority leader harry reid has said if they don't reach something by monday he'll bring forward a bill to help out the middle class for an up-and-down vote. >> right. >> put everybody on the record, but especially republicans. isn't that the tactic? >> exactly right. the step before that is harry reid is working on some bill that might get bipartisan support in the senate. president obama in that meeting apparently told them try and work something out. and reid left and ma
-called fiscal cliff as soon as he lands. the goal, to work out a deal that can solve the political gridlock before the new year. the senate will reconvene today. the house, however s not back in session after the failure of speaker john boehner's plan b last week, house members are saying the ball is now in the senate's court. >>> former president george h.w. bush is in the intensive care unit at a houston hospital this morning. according to a statement from the bush family the president has been in intensive care since sunday, after suffering a series of setbacks, including a persistent fever. they also say he's relentlessly positive and spends time talking and joking with his doctors. in the next hour we'll take to you houston for a live update on the president's condition. >>> it's called one of the largest lawsuits of its kind, toyota agrees to a $1.1 billion settlement. we'll tell you who benefits and if one of the people who benefits is you. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. are only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest pri
. . >>> that says warning, fiscal cliff. it's the podium, but it means a lot. it can tell us exactly where we are, how close we are to heading off the cliff. the reason you are seeing that is the house minority steps up to the microphones at any moment on the fiscal cliff situation. they should all be working on this right now. so not everybody is. a live picture of the press conference. a live picture of the capitol. five days away, the big tax hikes could kick in. we are now receiving word that the president, president obama will not send legislation to congress today that might avert the so-called fiscal cliff. the president pulled the plug on his holiday trip to hawaii and arrived in washington shortly after 11:00 in hopes of prodding congress to lock in taxes for all but the wealthiest 2%. so a republican source told us he would be sending legislation to capitol hill, but the white house is telling us no, that is not the case. you have the president there at the white house. you have the senate in session and they are scattered throughout the country and taxes are going up on january 1st. le
reach the fiscal cliff. the congress and the white house are running out of time. there was supposed to be a leadership telephone conversation today, while the president heads back here from hawaii. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following that closely, so we'll be checking in with her. we're also staying on the story of the gun culture in america. we'll talk to former congressman asa hutchinson, a man who is very well known here in the nation's capital, a long-time friend of the gun lobby. he's been tapped to lead the nra plan to put armed guards in schools.nra plan to put armed guards in school. also the weather is a very big story. blizzard conditions in indiana and other places. we'll take a look at just how bad that can get. all that at the top of the hour. >> joe johns, thank you. >>> they inspire us, sometimes they even anger us. they're the most intriguing people of 2012. so who made the list? broo brooke baldwin counts down the top ten people who shaped the year that was. >> number 10, john roberts.broo top ten people who shaped the year that was. >> number
in honolulu with friends. with the house hopelessly deadlocked any chance of averting the fiscal cliff will start in the senate and there's a bit of news on that front. our white house correspondent brianna keilar joins us live from honolulu, hawaii. so a slight bit of news. do tell. >> reporter: i hesitate to even say it's a slight bit of news because it's sort of exactly what we would expect, to be honest. the white house is talking about senate democrats about what senate majority leader harry reid will have to cobble together when the senate reconvenes on the 27th and that's really the last-ditch effort. it's seen as the senate trying to do something that can also pass the house, so this is exactly what you would expect. the real problem though is as of this morning, just a week out from when the fiscal cliff is expected to hit. there's no discussions between congressional democrats and congressional republicans even on the staff level. this is what democratic and republican sources are telling me, and overall just to remind people, instead of this being -- here's what we expect. i
political fault and damage if we go off the fiscal cliff because all the polls show a majority of americans will probably blame republicans for not passing at least tax cuts to extend for 98% of americans. so both have a good point. >> it begs the question i want to you answer, what are they all doing here? if nobody is interested in getting this deal? >> as dana pointed out, lots of house republicans would rather vote on something after the 1st than before. i haven't seen any indication from obama or the people around him that they are okay with going over the cliff. they really do seem to want to do something before the deadline. they seem desperate to do that. plenty of liberals say, go over the cliff. big cuts in the pentagon and big tax hikes. the white house, from all indications that i've seen, they don't want that to happen. they are scared of what could happen to the markets. >> why aren't they dalg dealing with boehner? dana, be go ahead. jumpb in here. >> i think they won their negotiating power once boehner last week failed. as dana pushed out, the only thing that can get boehne
. if lawmakers do not reach a fiscal cliff agreement, you could see your taxes skyrocket and deep spending cuts kick in. major sticking points, entitlements and tax increases. house republicans have ended their meetings for the night. we'll find out tomorrow whether vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell have made any progress in their talks. any deal would have to get enough votes to pass the senate and the house. >>> president obama says sandy hook school shooting was the worst day of his presidency. americans will have to explore their own feelings when his gun law reform proposals come out next year. >> the question then becomes, whether we are actually shook up enough by what happened here that it does not just become another one of these routine episodes where it gets a lot of attention for a couple of weeks and then it drifts away. it certainly won't feel like that to me. >> the president says the law he's pushing will address assault style rifles, high capacity magazines and background checks. >>> the fiscal cliff, it's not the only deadline pressing on congress. a five-year farm
's pushing to get this fiscal cliff stuff done. speaker boehner took issue, won't surprise you either, with the president's appearance, in particular the president saying wait i have offered $1 trillion worth of cuts, i offered two to one spending cuts and here's what boehner had to say -- the president's comments are ironic as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. needed cuts and reforms that the president agreed to last year were no longer on the table as he cited an inability it to sell them to democrats. somebody is inflexible here. >> he accuses the president of the failure of leadership and in these days when somebody in washington uses the word leadership what they are meaning is caving in and bringing you own party along. i think the president was very clear in this interview that his strategy all along he is not going to be drawn into these negotiations because the white house thinks that one of the biggest mistakes of his presidency was doing exactly that in 2011. >> on the other
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republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >
to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house, but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points in trying to reach an agreement. any bipartisan bill has to include a extension of unemployment benefits that would effect 2 million americans and an increase for taxes for the highest income workers. >>> now, while that. negotiation is continuing, the president has asked senate majority leader, harry reed to prepare an alternative bill to have ready to put on the senate floor as early as sunday. that bill would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that is a democratic proposal and you can expect that republicans would block it, so think of that less as a stop gap measure and more as a political move to sthift the failure of responsibility to the republicans just as the nation approaches the hour of republic -- the hour of reckoning. >> the nation's capitol could see snow of 3-5 inches tonight. washington not alone, these pictures are from indiana, they are see issing more snow than the blizzard that hit ea
to tackle the so-called fiscal cliff. he landed about 30 minutes ago. you see him getting off of the air force one. the president shut his vacation short do deal with this economic crisis. according to a tweet from a white house spokesman, the president spoke with all four congressional leaders before leaving hawaii for washington, and the senate is reconvening today. now the automatic spending cuts and the tax increases that make up the fiscal cliff, they're set to take effect in just five days. much more on the fiscal cliff crisis, the effort to reach some kind of agreement later this hour. we're going go live to capitol hill for the latest as the senate returns to work. that is coming up in about 20 minutes. >>> and president obama's going to have another cabinet position to fill for the new year. we learned a short time ago apa lisa jackson is stepping down after the president's state of the union speech in january. jackson starting with the agency as a staff level scientist back in 1987. during her tenure as administrator she tackled pollution problems in poor community communities.
about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid, who you saw earlier, and the president, what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can craft what the president called a scaled-back bill, which is what he campaigned on. raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurally too, that takes time. and congress notorious
-minute deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, right? the president and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would
crowley in washington with the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. there was a big meeting at the white house today between the president and the four leaders, two republicans and two democrats on capitol hill. senator harry reid told reporters afterwards that the next 24 hours would be very important, as he and republican leader mitch mcconnell try to put together something that would pass both of their caucuses, that republicans in the senate would vote for and that democrats in the senate would vote for. and then, of course, it would have to go to the house. now, the majority leader senator reid said he's readying a bill for a vote on monday to prevent a tax hike on incomes up to $250,000. senator reid said his bill will include all of the additional provisions that the president outlined that include long-term unemployment benefits, a continuation of those. that would be sort of the plan b for democrats simply because what they would rather do is get a bill with senator reid working in conjunction with senator mcconnell. senator reid said he's awaiting good faith propos
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of the fiscal cliff with just 36 days to go until tax increases kick, in the white house and congress are playing a high stakes game of let's make a deal. >> only in america believes there has to be this what i believe to be really farce ical now surely -- the nature of the world is very fast moving, america has huge economic problems, heading for another fiscal cliff, everyone laughing at you from afenway park the american public sick and tired of all the games going on and there are you, grover norquist, a very bright guy still resolutely saying a pledge is a pledge is a pledge, it cannot be broken when many of your own party are now saying you know, what it doesn't make sense to have this irresolute position anymore. >> two things, the pledge is not for life. but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king, who tried to weasel out of it -- shame on him as the "new york sun" says tonight. i hope his wife understands commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> whoa, hang on, hang on. that was a bit below the belt, grover. >> hey, if you think a commitme
will be pushing a scaled back version of the fiscal cliff package that president obama laid out last week. it moved the tax hike needle to $400,000 per household. no word yet on when the house might come back with time ticking away. democrats are hoping that a scaled back plan could get through the house, senate and white house before that big ball drops on 2013. that would be sometime on december 30th or even on new years eve. we want to bring in jonathan allen. he's a senior national correspondent for politico. the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other players and there's no reason to change it. i think as observers of this, the american public, you can say there's a real reason to change it. in terms of the politicians, i think they're pursuing their best
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